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Post by Patricia on Dec 19, 2007 18:12:20 GMT -5
I didnt want to lie about that though. I see your point how I could have handled the situation better, but why would I have done that particular thing differently? I knew that Josh may have told you about the alliance or hinted it. (He even told me one time that he had heard things about me being with you, he didnt know about Jess) I never told you that I was going to act on the alliance, I only told you that he thought one did exist. And it did, but I just told you about a way I could help get another partner into the alliance, though it never came to be.
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Post by Monty on Dec 19, 2007 20:25:37 GMT -5
Firebolt4056: "Why do you deserve to win?"Well Beel, thank you for asking what I wanted asked. Even though you already voted, so um thanks for listening? When I was invited to this game, I was obviously the last one he invited. And from what I found out later I was a replacement. And I was 2nd in line on the replacement list. That's right, I wasn't even supposed to be in this game. Yet I was able to outbeat 14 of you and prove that TLG was wrong of his choice of the original cast. Coming into the game, TLG was telling me how each person was supposed to play a role. Gary was the guy that was going to get eaten alive. Hil was the bitch. (Just kidding, you called me one so I had to call you one.) Anyway, I had no role. So I made my own. I was going to be the psycho person that got on people's nerves. So then I made all this stuff up about being baptized and hoping to fall in love. But that was just too annoying, so I basically just stopped talking. I realized by not talking, then I probably wouldn't have been seen as some huge threat, plus eventually, I'd be great ally potential to other people since it was obvious I had none. Coming into the game I had 5 main targets. Beel, Hil, Perry, Jeremy, and Gary. Once Hil nominated me week 2, I figured I was done. That's when I went through one of my "I don't care" attitudes. But by luck, I won the veto. Then I was nominated once again! And by one of my targets once again. But thankfully, I was able to pull off the veto win again. I knew my strategy of being silent obviously wasn't working, so I tried to plant seeds in people's head by saying BB3 people and their girlfriends don't like me or something. When I said that, Jessica offered an alliance to me. Suddenly I was back to caring about the game. I wanted to win HOH so badly. Unfortunately I didn't, but Gary was evicted so all was good. When I found out the next challenge was a posting challenge, I KNEW I would win! I posted almost non-stop. Patricia noticed I had the most posts at one point, so she also offered me an alliance. I figured it was just to save her own ass though if I won HOH. Once I won I was actually having trouble who to nominate. I honestly thought that the coup belonged to Hil or Perry. So I figured I would nominate them, cause I wanted the coup to be played. Once I nominated them I made sure everyone knew they were dating. Honestly, I couldn't know how one could not know since I think they made it obvious, but I had to make sure. I figured I could survive the coup now since I thought there were plenty of votes I could win over. However, if it was played later in the game, depending on who was in, I wasn't sure if I would have survived. Once Perry won veto I nominated Jeremyy since he was my next choice of who had the coup. This time I was right. And seeing myself next to Perry was the best option I could have asked for. I was able to get votes from people I had never talked to before because they thought he was a threat, or because they wanted Hil to themselves and wanted Perry out of the way. I was able to survive the coup and not have to worry about it later in the game. Since I had now made the jury part of the game, I just started to act like a complete jerk. Most people want to be next to the person that is hated the most, and I wanted to be that person. After Cory left, Tyrie because another huge target of mine. Once he left he reavealed that Jess was one of his allies. As I mentioned in a previous post, I figured Jess and Pat were already allies before they were with me, so I tried to get in Pat's head as much as possible that Jess was playing a great game by playing both sides. I was hoping that if we were in the final 3 and Pat won HOH, that she would take me. Before Tyrie left, Hil was on the block, and I was almost positive she was the one to leave. But unfortunately, Patricia didn't understand my plan for the veto, and Beel won and saved her. The next week she finally left though. There were only 5 of us remaining, and only one of my targets left. When I was HOH for the third time, I knew I had to pull off some huge move. I nominated Beel and Josh to make it appear that I was going along with Jess and Pat. I wanted Josh gone the most because I knew Pat could go with him if she wanted to. When I won the veto I had so many options. I knew Pat and Jess would vote out Beel. And I remembered my original strategy of trying to be hated. I saved Beel, ensuring Josh would leave, but I made it seem like I wanted Jess gone. I knew this would piss of Josh even more when I evicted him. When he left he said there was no chance of me winning. This is exactly what I wanted. I knew Jess and Pat would stick with me the next week because 1) I was hated and 2) Their hatred for beel was almost as much as mine. When he left the next, I pretty much figured I had a spot in the finals. Pat even said she took me because she felt like she had a better shot, and I'm sure my moves made her feel that way, so I'm glad they worked out. I know that I pissed a lot of you off, and that I'll probably get one vote, but after finding out I was a replacement, I was so determined to make the final 2, and now I did that. So I don't care if I lose 7-0, I accomplished my goal in this game, and I feel like I deserve to win.
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Post by jessica on Dec 19, 2007 21:31:55 GMT -5
Patricia and Monty, congratulations to you both for making it to the final two of TLG Madness. It was a pleasure to have been aligned with you both from the beginning.
To clear the air, I did make alliances with each of you at roughly the same time. I cannot recall who I technically aligned with first. That does not matter. What matters is that we were aligned. When Patricia asked me if we should align with Monty, I said, "sure" because I did not want her to think that I was aligned more closely with him. The truth is, we were a trio. I did what I had to do to keep us together and it worked, which is rare in these games.
Did I have alliances with others? Absolutely. In these games you must do so in order to stay alive. You also have to watch out so that you do not get caught. I was aligned with Josh as well, but only after he voted to keep me.
Anyhow, my question to you both is, week by week, explain your strategy. Please discuss your alliances, targets and important PM and AIM discussions. Please convince me that your strategy was great. As I was aligned with you both and like you both equally, I am basing my vote off of your answers to all of the questions.
Good luck!!!
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Post by jessica on Dec 19, 2007 21:36:38 GMT -5
Well, I guess I should partially change my question. Please address what you did not cover in your response to Beel.
Also, I am curious about who you liked/hated in order. Please list the houseguests in order with 1 being the one you liked the most. Please give reasons as to why you rated each the way you did.
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Post by Patricia on Dec 19, 2007 21:40:13 GMT -5
This reminds me of something I forgot to say, lol. Coming into this game, i thought it would be just like any other. But when I started playing, i realized that lots of the people in this game already knew each other. I found out that I did in fact know one person, but that person was evicted very early and nothing came from that relationship. What was crazy though, is it seemed like I was almost the only person un attached at the beginning of this game. Look at the questions to HoH #12. It seems from that that almost everybody was in a game with somebody else! 2 people were even Dating! But I do believe that another reason that any jury member should concider giving me their vote is because I came into this house with only 1 past relationship (and everybody quickly started disliking him and evicted him) and I still made friends and allies that took me to the end of the game. I didnt evict Gary for you (I know you didnt say I did, but I fear somebody could infer it, lol) He and Hil were kinda inactive that week (and I didnt want to nominate superstar, because we had talked alot and toyed with the idea of an alliance). And when I offered you an alliance during the posting comp. It was long after Jessica and i had talked about allying with you as a group. I just thought that that was the most convienent time, because I had a good conversation starter (how much we hated posting) lol It was already in my head before you told me. I had suspected her on my own before you told me anything about it (much love though Jess And playing both sides is a great game if you can pull it off and get to the end, and she almost did. I still stand by what I said earlier, she likely would have won if she made it here because she did play so well. But I wouldnt say you "got into my head" when it was made publicly obvious. I never hated Beel. I was against him in the house due to his association with Hil from before (and the only reason I actively campaigned against her is because she nominated me) But when we started to talking, it showed me that there was no reason to hate him at all.
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Post by Monty on Dec 19, 2007 21:48:29 GMT -5
But I do believe that another reason that any jury member should concider giving me their vote is because I came into this house with only 1 past relationship (and everybody quickly started disliking him and evicted him) and I still made friends and allies that took me to the end of the game. Ummm, why do you think I made an alias. I had 6 past relationships with people that did NOT like me yet I was still able to overcome it. I didnt evict Gary for you I didn't try to imply that. It was just random recap. Sorry. It was already in my head before you told me. I had suspected her on my own before you told me anything about it (much love though Jess And playing both sides is a great game if you can pull it off and get to the end, and she almost did. I still stand by what I said earlier, she likely would have won if she made it here because she did play so well. But I wouldnt say you "got into my head" when it was made publicly obvious. I may not have gotten in your head, but I made sure you never forgot it, all the way until your final desicion.
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Post by Patricia on Dec 19, 2007 21:50:08 GMT -5
Well Jessica, I guess what I would say in response to the first part of your question is what I said in my last post Im sure something else will come out in later answers though. But all of the houseguests in order of how I like them. Lets get to it. 1. Jessica, of course you were my best bud in the house. And I truly did hurt when I evicted you. Ive already told you why I did it, you were a great player and a huge threat to win it all, but the reason I liked you is simple, we talked through the whole game, and I talked to you mor ethan anybody else. I always thought of you as a great gal, even though I suspected you sometimes. 2. Josh, He and I did have an alliance for a while, and he was a nice guy to talk to. I really enjoyed all the conversatoin we had. 3. Beel. I know some of you may think im crazy for ranking Beel so high up, but Even though we met so late in the game, you were a great guy from all I saw in the conversations we had. 4. Tyrie - I know we hardly talked at all in the game, but I liked your style in the little conversations we had. I also liked how you always talked in challenge threads (and you siggy is helarious) 5. Hil, we were on opposite sides of the house, but I could tell that you were a smart girl, and funny to in the live comps and stuff. if we were alligned at the beginning, I may have even liked you best, but thats just not the way the cards fell. 6. Cory, now you and I talked little during the game, But I admired the fact that you were blunt with me when I asked you for help in the competition where we were allowed too. I like the blunt honest kind of personality trait. 7. Jeremyy, You were a strong competitor, I would have actively wanted to ally with you but one of the comps you won was a secret, lol. But I could tell you were strong, and would have kicked major tail if the alliances in the house would have fallen differently. 8. Superstar, what can I say, he was a funny guy, when he was here, lol. 9 perry, same as superstar, a really funny guy. For everybody else, Its not that they dont matter, but they were either inactive or I dont remember any of the few ocnversations we had. I didnt know many of the pre juries as well as the jury members. LAST... OMAR. He sucks
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Post by Jeremyy on Dec 19, 2007 22:23:39 GMT -5
Wow congrats guys! I knew from the week I tried to get Monty evicted you two were together, and I'd like to congratulate you two on making the final 2. I haven't really been following the game, but I guess either you guys dominated the competitions, or everyone else was too stupid to vote you guys out. You guys remind me of Daniele and dick from Big Brother 8.
I want both of you to outline all of your moves in this game, and why you chose to make them.
Then I want you to tell me why you SHOULDN'T win the game.
Good luck you two!
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Post by Hil on Dec 20, 2007 2:13:47 GMT -5
Just for the record I don't hate you or even dislike you, Jamison, never did or never have. I am sorry about that game, but it was strategy and had nothing to do with whether I liked you or not. I never talked to you and didn't know you so I was going to stick by the people that I knew would stick by me for sure. This game was fun and thanks for being such a great competitor and making me work. Thank you both for answering my question. And good luck!
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Post by Monty on Dec 20, 2007 7:35:27 GMT -5
Thanks for straightening that out Hil. It just has seemed like ever since we "met" (which I don't think we ever have really even talked to each other.) you have just seemed uninterested in me and disliked me. The same goes for Tyrie, only I actually HAVE tried talking to her and she just completely ignored me.
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Post by Tyrie on Dec 20, 2007 8:43:12 GMT -5
idc if its my turn or anything but first thing I'm going nto say is... Who the heck is Jamison? But, oh well, I'm still gonna torture you girls! (Jamison is a girl, right?) 1. Why is Daniele so awesome? 2. Why is Jen so awesome? 3. What do you think of "I'm TLG....dammit!" 4. What do you think was my strategy though out the game? 5. Assign a BB contestant to the jury members. Put me with somebody that I hate and my vote goes to the other person (I hate Wamber, Hypocrtika, Nerd Herd, Turd Herd) 6. What was your strategy in this game? 7. Did you like Courtney? 8. Do you hate James (S15)? 9. Do you hate Terry (S12)? 10. Do you hate James (BB6/7)? 11. Do you hate Eric (BB8)? 12. Do you hate Zach (BB8)? 14. Do you love Janelle (BB6/7)? 15. Do you love Dustin/Kandice (TAR10/11)? 16. Do you hate Rob/Amber (SAS/TAR7/11)?
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Post by Patricia on Dec 20, 2007 11:11:34 GMT -5
Hey Jeremyy. So an outline of my moves, lets get to it week 1 i tried to talk to people in the house to build up alliances, I hadnt yet talked to Jessica or Monty, but I did make an allaince with Superstar, and when I won the first PoV, I knew that my alliance for the rest of the game was to ally myself with strong competitors and challenge winners to keep myself from being targetted (and it worked, I was only nominated 1 time this entire game) Week 2 I talked more to other people in the house, but Nothing Major happened. During week 3 is when my endgame started to clear itself out. I hooked up with Jessica and we make a solid alliance right then and there, and we rode it out all the way to the final 3 With the person that we became a triad with a few weeks later (I wanted to ally with him because he had won competitions and being with him would help keep me safe) After that, I basically continued my game all the way to the end. I didnt stop talking to people, I have had at least 1 extensive conversation with most of the people in the house. I made small allinaces with some of the people (quite a few actually), but I stuck with my 3 person allinace to the end, because that was the sure one to get me to the end of the game. And it did! At least one of us won a competition in most weeks from that point on. And thats what got me to the end. Keeping the allinace together that turned out to be the strongest alliance. But it wasnt the strongest by luck, because in the beginning of the game, I choose to try to place together people who were the strongest in challenges, and thats what I did. Toward the end of the game (from final 4 on) I won every competition to get me here. If there were a reason that I souldnt win, I would say that Monty did end up winning more competitions than me, thoughI didnt do too shabby myself, lol (sorry I forgot to put this in the first time )
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Post by Patricia on Dec 20, 2007 11:27:43 GMT -5
Hey Tyrie 1. Why is Daniele so awesome? Im one of the people who doesent think she is. I didnt like dick either, but I think Daniele wrode his coatails something serious. 2. Why is Jen so awesome? Cause shes a Jenious! I loved Jen, her personality was helarious 3. What do you think of "I'm TLG....dammit!" Um, TLG is a fun guy, but sometimes it gets to his head 4. What do you think was my strategy though out the game? I think your strategy was to make alliances and work to get them to the end. We got a little insight into your game in the quotes comp. and It showed us thats at least one of the things you wanted to do. 5. Assign a BB contestant to the jury members. Put me with somebody that I hate and my vote goes to the other person (I hate Wamber, Hypocrtika, Nerd Herd, Turd Herd) Uh, well, Ill only use season 6 and on, thats wehre I started watching. Jessica - Will. She played a great game, and If she would have goted here, she would have probably won. Beel - I would have to say all the good qualities of Jameka. But better, much better than the real Jameka, lol. He didnt like how TLG handled how he played, and he wasnt the biggest challenge threat but he was still a good guy. Josh, Kaysar, but MUCH better. He came back into the house, but his game was much better. Hil - Nakomis (Not allstars, but before, I heard about her gameplay) Alot of strategy and relationshiops were in play with you, but your game didnt make it through the home stretch, like Nakomis. Tyrie, Boogie - You understood that you needed an allinace to get to the end of the game, and thats what you tried to do from what I saw, make alliances like Boogie to get you to the end. Jeremyy, Kinda like Janelle a bit - you were obviously strong in challenges, you won the coup and the BoF, but you also were part of a big alliance (from my observations) that just didnt end up being the dominant one. Cory, Like dick, but nicer, lol. was caught up at first member of the jury when he was nominated there like dick wasnt. I know we hardly talked in the game, but when I talked to you later, your personality was like his (not mean like I think dick was, but Blunt, which is a good thing, lol) 6. What was your strategy in this game? I Just wanted to bring the strongest challenge competitors together in an alliance so I could continue doing my best without looking like a huge challenge threat in the process. That would keep me safe if an alliance member won a challenge (which was most likely because I choose my allies that way) and If My allinace lost a HoH, I wasnt an obvious target because I had tried to keep challenge competitiors in the game rather than go after them because they were threats. Because if I got big threats out of the house early, I would have eventually been targeted and evicted in the midgame. 7. Did you like Courtney? I do like courtney. I think she just got a bad edit. but I like her blunt tell it like it is personality. And I love your sassy humor. 8. Do you hate James (S15)? You mean from survivor? (I hope you do, lol) I didnt think he was a good player at all. He didnt seem very smart to me. And I thought he was cocky alot of the time. 9. Do you hate Terry (S12)? GOodness yes, lol. He was a strategic retard 10. Do you hate James (BB6/7)? Well, he did have a good strategy Idea, but people still got him out, and honestly, I barely remember his personality 11. Do you hate Eric (BB8)? Yes, he was a little rat and he went after Jen (even though it wasnt his choice, lol) 12. Do you hate Zach (BB8)? No, I dont hate him, but his personality was kinda bland. 14. Do you love Janelle (BB6/7)? I like her alot, but I dont know about love her . She was a strong player, and I liked her, but im not as huge a Janelle fan as some people 15. Do you love Dustin/Kandice (TAR10/11)? Yes I did. They were very nice and a strong team. 16. Do you hate Rob/Amber (SAS/TAR7/11)? YES! Their 15 minuts is UP!
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Post by Monty on Dec 20, 2007 15:34:16 GMT -5
Well, I guess I should partially change my question. Please address what you did not cover in your response to Beel. Also, I am curious about who you liked/hated in order. Please list the houseguests in order with 1 being the one you liked the most. Please give reasons as to why you rated each the way you did. Well um I think I pretty much covered everything from Beel's question. LOL 1. Jessica - You know why. And you know why I can't really say why I like you too. So ya. 2. Patricia- She was definately very trustworthy and a nice person. 3. Perry - I think Perry is a great guy and a great friend. Unfortunately I can be a complete jackass though so I went after him just because I held a grudge. Shame on me. 4. Josh - I liked him because he had a whole lot of fight in him. He never gave up, and I like that. 5. Gary- He's British 6. Jeremy- Honestly, he really hasn't done anything wrong to me, so I don't know why I disliked him so much in this game. In fact, he's a nice guy. 7. Beel- I just don't like him ever since he rigged that one game. 8. Hil - I dunno. ItWe just always end up in games where there's other people we would rather get to know, or already know, and then we go after each other. I know who she is, but I don't know anything about her really. 9. Mark- Don't know him 10. Jake- don't know him 11. Beel- I just don't like him ever since he rigged that one game. 12. Tyrie- Mel is probably the biggest bitch I have ever met, and I've met a lot. 13. Tyler- I really just can't stand the guy. The way he signs up for so many games and then goes inactive, it's just annoying. 14. Superstar- I HATE people that go inactive! 15. Omar- he doesn't even exist....
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Post by Monty on Dec 20, 2007 15:38:56 GMT -5
Wow congrats guys! I knew from the week I tried to get Monty evicted you two were together, and I'd like to congratulate you two on making the final 2. I haven't really been following the game, but I guess either you guys dominated the competitions, or everyone else was too stupid to vote you guys out. You guys remind me of Daniele and dick from Big Brother 8. I want both of you to outline all of your moves in this game, and why you chose to make them. Then I want you to tell me why you SHOULDN'T win the game. Good luck you two! I think I outlined all of my moves in Beel's question. So you can just look at that. I would say that I shouldn't win because there were moments in this game when I didn't really want to win. I never really gave 100% effort throughout the entire game, which I think a good player should.
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