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Post by ThatLostGuy on Dec 18, 2007 17:36:08 GMT -5
The Jury Questions will be posted here....
Monty and Patricia, you may answer the Jury Questions in here as well.
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Post by ThatLostGuy on Dec 18, 2007 17:37:42 GMT -5
*Hil is the first to speak up*
She says......
Monty,WHY ARE U SUCH bitch?
Patricia, WHY DID U FOLLOW AROUND THE bitch?
btw jamison perry and i knew it was you the entire time. Next time you should hide you act a little be of who you are.
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Post by Monty on Dec 18, 2007 17:49:41 GMT -5
Monty,WHY ARE U SUCH bitch? btw jamison perry and i knew it was you the entire time. Next time you should hide you act a little be of who you are. Great question. I'm a bitch cause I can be. And honestly, I'm really only a bitch to people that annoy me or have wronged me in some way in the past. If Perry didn't betray me in San Blas or if you didn't betray me in that one BAM game (yes, I still remember, even though you probably don't) then I probably wouldn't have been such a bitch to you guys. Truth is I really like Perry, but I had to get him back for playing me so much. I don't really like you though....cause you don't like me. I'm not trying to say that I hold grudges, because I usually don't, but this game was just too hard not to with so many of you guys in it. LOL and I love your comment. You didn't KNOW the ENTIRE time, but I was shocked that you guys suspected me so early. Actually I'm not since I gave Perry a LOT of clues. But TLG told me during the week I was HOH for the first time that Perry said he was suspecting it was me and I should lay low, but I didn't really care. And later when TLG and Kenya told me that you guys knew for sure, I couldn't help but laugh. Props to you guys! At least I didn't make it so obvious like Tyrie did of who I really was. If he hadn't given his screen name, then he probably wouldn't have been a target of mine until the final 4 or 5.
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Post by Patricia on Dec 18, 2007 17:56:02 GMT -5
Hey Hil (If im supposed to Post after Monty, My bad ) Well, Why did I follow around Monty. I would have to say that I didnt. I remember in your eviction you made it clear that everybody already knew about My alliance with him, but there was another element of the alliance that had not been figured out yet. Jessica and I had started the alliance 3 weeks before we even talked to Monty about strategy. Jessica and I started an alliance week 3 when she won HoH. Most of the time in ORG's, you see people target people who had won challenges early in the game. but I didnt want to do this, I saw my best chance of getting far in the game was by alligning myself with people strong in challenges (This was also to keep peopel strong in challenges from targetting me, I won the PoV week 1) This is actually part of the reason why I talked to you Hil as much as I did. You won the 2nd HoH, and I was very open to the idea of an alliace with you. We never agreed to one, but Jessica and I did. That was week 3. I believe that it was week 6 that came around, and we saw that Monty had won plenty of competitions by that time. Jessica and I decided that we should start talking to him about the possibility of alligning with us to make a power trio (which we did) because we were all strong in challenges (at that point if im not mistaken, Jessica and I had won a HoH and a PoV and Monty had won 2 PoV's) until week 6. We decided that he was the best option because he had won competitions (at that time we were all tied for 1st place at 3) and he was obviously needing an alliance because he had been nominated more than anybody else. And for most of the game, Jessica and I discussed Strategic moves with each other before talking to Monty (though we didnt let Monty in on this until much later in the game when he won all those challenges almost in a row) So, in direct response to your question, he in your opinion may be the way you describe him, but I did not follow him.
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Post by Monty on Dec 18, 2007 18:03:37 GMT -5
Jessica asked me to be in alliance with her before the week 4 vote, and you asked me to be in an alliance with you during the week 6 HOH. Just wanted to straighten that out for you. And you guys made it obvious you were already alligned. When Jess told me that she wanted you to join our alliance. And when You told me you wanted Jess in our's...it just seemed to fishy. Wait, you said week 6 is when you agreed on letting me in. Why did you wait so long to let me in when Jess was already in alliance with me week 4? Did you not like me?
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Post by Patricia on Dec 18, 2007 18:30:19 GMT -5
Jessica asked me to be in alliance with her before the week 4 vote, and you asked me to be in an alliance with you during the week 6 HOH. Just wanted to straighten that out for you. And you guys made it obvious you were already alligned. When Jess told me that she wanted you to join our alliance. And when You told me you wanted Jess in our's...it just seemed to fishy. Wait, you said week 6 is when you agreed on letting me in. Why did you wait so long to let me in when Jess was already in alliance with me week 4? Did you not like me? \ Well, you and I both assumed for a long time that Jessica was in deals that she kept from us. I guess she kept her allinace with you secret from me for 2 weeks. I dont remember exactly when i suggested to her that we should ally with you, but we didnt actually do it as a group until a little while later. And I like you alot Monty, and I always have, and I was concidering allying with you for a long time. But If Jessica was allied with you before I was, then that stays concistant with what you and I have assumed for a long time. She had lots of allinaces to keep herself safe, and she didnt need to let everybody in on all of them ,lol
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Post by ThatLostGuy on Dec 19, 2007 15:53:15 GMT -5
*Josh is the second one to question Monty and Patricia*
He says....
Same question for both of them.
Why shouldn't the other person next to you win? Give me straight forward answers. Nothing like because they didn't win as much competitions as me. I want you to act like this is what is going to win you the game.
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Post by Patricia on Dec 19, 2007 16:20:33 GMT -5
Hey Josh. Love your question, I was hoping that it was going to be asked. The first reason that Monty shouldn't win is because I should . But seriously, I would say that the reason that Monty shouldn't win is that he was not as strategic a player as I was. The alliance to bring together strong competitors was my Idea. As Ive already explained, I wanted to make sure (after winning a week 1 comp) that I wasn't targeted for being a threat. The way that I made sure of that was trying to ally myself with people who had shown themselves to be strong players. Thats why I immediately choose Jessica (She had just won a HoH, and I didnt want to be nominated, lol) because she had the same fears of being targeted as a threat. And later Jessica and I discussed bringing Monty into the alliance. (I dont know the exact timing of everything that happened back then, it was a while ago, but I am pretty sure that Jessica and I were allied before Monty and Jessica, from what Jessica has told me) As is seen, I spearheaded the alliance that eventually became the final 3, and Monty didn't. Another reason I feel that I should beat Monty is that I always had options. I talked to you a lot Josh, and me and you had solidified a little alliance until you were evicted. I did the same thing with Beel after you were evicted. This shows that I was flexible. I wasn't willing to just tie myself to one alliance and hope that it makes it to the end. I was always open and looking for options the whole game. The reason I bring this point up though is because Monty was not flexible in his game play. I personally like Monty, but many of you do not. This shows that he was not flexible. Now I don't know how his private conversations went, but from what I've seen in challenge and eviction threads and my own private conversations, Monty basically found a good alliance and was a jerk to everybody that wasn't in it. And thats why I believe that I should win and Monty shouldn't.
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Post by Monty on Dec 19, 2007 17:32:43 GMT -5
I really don't like this question. I actually have a hard time bashing a friend's gameplay, especially since they are next to me in the final 2. They obviously did something right, as did I. So I don't really have a say as to why I deserve it over her, because, well, we both deserve it. Honestly, I don't know one damn thing Patricia did in this game except win comps and become allies with people. And she made some so obvious, that's the reason her allies became evicted. Plus some were just pointless. The alliance with Beel? What good did that do when she nominated him that week anyway. If he won veto (a shot in hell) then big whoop, doesn't help her much. His chances of winning the final HOH were probably slim too, so if she won she would have had to betray someone. Anyways, Josh, if Patricia hadn't flat out told me that you were allied with her, then I probably wouldn't have had any clue you guys were alligned, and you would have been garunteed a spot in the final 4. She says she was the one that made our final 3 alliance, but I was in an alliance with Jessica two weeks before her, so I'd have to say it was Jessica that came up with it. If I hadn't already been alligned with her I probably would have said "hell no!" when Pat asked me if she wanted Jess in too. She may have been in an alliance with Jess before me, but for her to make it sound like she sort of "controlled" Jess when Jess was going around making alliances with other people 1 week after their alliance was made, doesn't seem quite right. I'd much rather prefer to see a question asking for our strategies throughout the entire game. I think it's stupid that we have to say that the other doesn't deserve it when we have no clue how the other one played. She says that I wasn't as strategic, how the hell would she know? I'm not saying she's wrong, but there's a lot of moves I made in this game that I'm sure some people have no clue why I did just as I'm sure there are moves that she made that I don't know about. And she thinks it's bad that I was hated, I WANTED to be hated! And she shouldn't make it sound so bad when she was hated too. Does this ring a bell Pat? 11- "Patricia- fuckingwhorebitchGODIEINAFIRE (fucking whorebitch, go die in a fire)." I'd much rather someone ask for our strategies, then YOU can decide why one of us deserves to win over the other. If you're basing your answer on this question then sorry, but I really can't answer besides what I already wrote.
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Post by ThatLostGuy on Dec 19, 2007 17:37:26 GMT -5
*Beel creeps towards the FinalTwo*
He mumbles....
Firebolt4056: "Why do you deserve to win?"
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Post by Patricia on Dec 19, 2007 17:42:06 GMT -5
Beel, my answer to your question is pretty similar to the answer I gave Josh, Infact, I answered his question like I would have answer yours with only a few differences.
I would definantly say that I brought together the power alliance of the game. However at the same time I was flexible, it was just that the deal that I already had was my best one. As ive already said, I had the idea for the alliance of the strongest players very early in the game, because I didnt want to become targetted for being a threat, so what I did was surround myself with allies that had won as many or more competitions than me. I believe that I played a very smart and strategic game, and one that deserves your jury vote.
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Post by ThatLostGuy on Dec 19, 2007 17:47:39 GMT -5
*Hil's vote has now been cast*
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Post by Patricia on Dec 19, 2007 17:47:52 GMT -5
That isnt one of my favorite quotes of the season either . But what i have to remember is that this was something that he said in his private DR (without anybody knowing it would be seen and become part of the game) and in his mind, he was justified by saying this. he was evicted under my HoH when he was on vacation. And Didnt you vote to evict him as well? And I may have told you about my alliance with Josh, but that was only after you openly asked me about it. And I wasnt going to flat out lie to you. And The reason that I believe that he was evicted is because you personally nominated him, kept him on the block, and evicted him. I dont mean to attack, i just want jury members to get both sides of the story.
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Post by ThatLostGuy on Dec 19, 2007 17:48:00 GMT -5
*Beel's vote has now been cast*
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Post by Monty on Dec 19, 2007 18:00:19 GMT -5
That isnt one of my favorite quotes of the season either . But what i have to remember is that this was something that he said in his private DR (without anybody knowing it would be seen and become part of the game) and in his mind, he was justified by saying this. he was evicted under my HoH when he was on vacation. And Didnt you vote to evict him as well? Uh ya duh. But I'm just trying to prove you were hated too. And I may have told you about my alliance with Josh, but that was only after you openly asked me about it. And I wasnt going to flat out lie to you. And The reason that I believe that he was evicted is because you personally nominated him, kept him on the block, and evicted him. Let's see what the PM's say. I asked if we should offer him an alliance. I never asked if you already had one with him. LOL I just realized this. But you say I wasn't flexible. I Wanted to have an alliance with Josh. So much for that idea...... BAM! Came right out and told me. A simple "Why don't you ask him?" wouldn't have been a lie, and you wouldn't have exposed your alliance. You could have handled a lot of situations better.
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